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  JW's are the SAME as other Christians....

  by BoogerMan in

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  ...they condemn/attack those whose beliefs/opinions/interpretations of scriptures differ from theirs.. various scriptures reveal to christians that the judging of mankind will be done by christ jesus: .

  john 5:22,28,29, acts 10:42, acts 17:31, romans 14:9, 2 cor.

  5:10, 2 tim.

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  Sigmund Freud believed he was right. You challenge people like him and all they say is that you are suffering neurotic resistance and have not experienced the truth as they have.

  Was Sigmund Freud religious? Jung did not agree with him. They fell out but both identified as psychologists. L Ron Hubbard didn't like Freud's stuff. He came up with dianetics/Scientology.

  And what about Mesmer and his Animal Magnetism? Animal Magnetism and ideas about hysteria took over from exorcisms when the Catholic church lost its hold on the French after the Revolution.
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  JW's are the SAME as other Christians....

  by BoogerMan in

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  ...they condemn/attack those whose beliefs/opinions/interpretations of scriptures differ from theirs.. various scriptures reveal to christians that the judging of mankind will be done by christ jesus: .

  john 5:22,28,29, acts 10:42, acts 17:31, romans 14:9, 2 cor.

  5:10, 2 tim.

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  Anna Marina

  Watchtower isn't a religion it is a publishing house or media company. Even they say they are not a religion.

  As far as I understand, in USA, Christianity is not a religion. It is a way of life. I can't quite remember how it is defined but I think it is that fact that Jesus is the truth. Therefore truth cannot be a religion. And personally I don't think of Jesus as being 'religious'. I used to ask people on the min if they thought Jesus was religious. Generally people answered 'no'. In fact I don't remember anyone saying 'yes.'

  Key point about WT is that the published material is a double-cross, full of misleading info. Given that, I don't see how the corporation can be described as Christian. But this is true of other corporations that claim to be Christian.
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  Top Ten Reasons JWs Can't Cope With The Real World

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. bible

  i'm not sure where this list came from.

  but do criticize it if you believe something is off-base.. why jws cannot deal with reality.

  the watchtower organization denies access to reality, substituting its own propaganda version instead.

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  Anna Marina

  Thank you Vanderhoven7. That's a useful list.

  No 8 There are no "Good" people in any other religion. If they were good they'd join Jehovah's Witnesses.

  WT is able to deflect criticism from itself and onto others by pointing to the genuine faults in others as if WT hasn't got those same faults too! Its a clever trick. You can't imagine why the man who robbed the bank (so to speak) pointed to all the pick pockets and called them thieves.

  On the subject of needing to think things through yourself - yes it is vital. And if you look at how Jesus taught, he made his disciples ask questions. The Greek word for disciple is mathete. It is where we get out word 'maths' from. It means working things out. Passing info through your own mind.

  Certain parts of the Bible require considerable thought, like a treasure hunt. That is the very opposite of brain washing. You have to be prepared to do the searching and working out yourself, not depend on someone else to do it for you.
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | September 2022 Prove Yourself Trustworthy

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the watchtower—study edition | september 2022. elders do not reveal confidential matters to their family members (see paragraph 11) .

  elders who are known to keep a confidence are “a hiding place from the wind, a place of concealment” for their brothers.

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  "We do not pressure them to tell us things that they should keep private. In addition, we appreciate our elders’ wives because they do not try to pry information out of their husbands."

  Does that mean the elder's wife never finds out her husband has committed adultery?

  Is the word 'should' a typo and was supposed to read 'will'.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Hi Vintage - take a look at Jan 1 WT 1911 p 1-4.

  Also I note the cover says The Watch Tower, Herald of Christ's Presence, not Zion's Watchtower, so I got that bit wrong. All the same you can see C T Russell praising J P Morgan's ecumenical movement and linking it to Zionism.

  Exactly what the relationship was between J P Morgan and C T Russell was I don't know. But he has subtitled that section as Morgan's Church Federation and says it was foretold in scripture and that he (C T Russell) has been pointing it out for 30 years.

  Watchtower & Awake Magazines of Jehovah's Witnesses (avoidjw.org)
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Vintage I think Watchtower are still doing the Dawn message. Always looking to a New Age - its just around the corner.

  Also when they removed C T Russell's pyramid, the Knights Templar cross and crown went with it. I understand the Knights Templars to be the bankers and J P Morgan backed Zion's Watchtower in order to federate all American Christian denominations following the American Civil War.

  What J P Morgan was wanting was that the various denominations would be willing to forsake some cherished Christian moral values and teachings in exchange for unity and no more bloodshed.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  It is.

  And those who complain about being run out of Dracula's Castle for being caught with their hand in the cookie jar, haven't worked out which side Dracula is on yet.

  Incidentally the pyramid in the Divine Plan of Ages points to a Draconis.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  They are like vampires. Top tip, never invite them to step into your house. A lesson sometimes learnt the hard way.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I agree Vintage. I was told that one of the worst kept secrets is that many of the elders are alcoholics not Christians.

  Also when you see through Watchtower's whitewash/veneer of Christianity, the moral person would never try to return. You can't.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  What he believes is way off. You get kicked out for suggesting child abuse is being covered up. Or telling the elders they are behaving in an unchristian manner and being cruel. Or saying WT's 1914 doctrine is wrong.

  You only get disfellowshipped for wrong doing if it is affecting the status quo. If you want to stay in you just say the right words to the elders.